Blog Post #17

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Hi North House, Happy New Year! I hope that all of you had a restful and awesome break.

As I was scrolling on my Twitter feed the other day, something on the Trending list had caught my eye: a Youtuber named Logan Paul was under fire for uploading an inappropriate video on his Youtube channel, in which he mocked and exploited a corpse in Aokigahara, the Suicide Forest of Japan. The Youtuber’s general content has been aimed towards a younger audience. As a result, hundreds of thousands of people have shown disgust in Paul’s vulgarity and exploitation shown within the video. The article shown here discusses how Paul later apologizes and how the media has reacted to the situation, as well as his apology. Many people were outraged at Paul’s video due to the disrespect that he had shown towards the victim. Nevertheless, fans of Paul continue to support him and Youtube has yet to demonetize his channel. 

Prompt: What was your first reaction to this situation? How do you think Logan should be punished, if he should be punished at all? Do you believe his apology? Why or why not?

 

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  1. My first reaction to this entire situation was simply beyond shock. I had known that both Jake and Logan Paul have previously done many tasteless actions just for the sake of publicity, but what Logan did was beyond any crude stunt he’d done before. I believe that the appropriate action that should be taken in order to control this situation is to take down Logan’s channel from YouTube and ban him. It is very hard these days to believe a public figure’s apology, because it is difficult to see if they truly mean it and learn from their mistake. Therefore, I don’t really believe his apology.

    Question: Do you think that the authorities in charge of Aokigahara (the forest) should take action to prevent others from videotaping their own future travels in the forest?

  2. In response to Lucia’s question, I also saw the video and comments on Twitter. My first reaction to this situation was, “why?” Why would he post a video showing a real corpse for millions of children and teens to see? I was completely shocked and disappointed. It is common sense to not show something so explicit to this type of audience. I think Logan should be punished by being banned from Youtube because his video is very inappropriate. I do not believe his apology because he says he was not thinking, but how does he not think that his video is wrong when he took the time to film it, edit it, and publish it on the web?

    In response to Sarah’s question, I think the authorities in charge of Aokigahara should not take action to prevent others from videotaping their own future travels in the forest because it is an attraction for many tourists. I have not heard of anyone else posting pictures of dead corpses online except for Logan Paul’s video.

    Question: If people are so bothered by the video of Logan vlogging a dead corpse to his million subscribers, mostly children, do you think Aokigahara should not allow children to enter the forest?

  3. My first reaction to Logan Paul’s disgusting behavior was surprise. The day he posted the video regarding his visit to Aokigahara, using suicide in the title and having a picture of a dead body, I thought it was just another one of Paul’s silly jokes. However, after seeing the hate and disgust he received from various media sources, I researched more about his actions. I after learning more, I was surprised that even the 22-year-old who dropped out of college would be dumb enough to post a video of him being indecent towards a corpse in a forest known for suicide. However, as one who has seen some of Logan’s videos in the past, I realize that this is just another mistake Logan has made without thinking about the consequences and for that reason, he shouldn’t be punished through any orthodox or conventional method. I believe that the hate, insults, loss of followers, and the backlash are punishment enough. I say this only because his reputation as an entertainer and performer is now ruined, making his life extremely hard. Jobs, friendships, love will all be harder to find as he receives the “punishment” he has brought on himself.

    I, being wrong and in the wrong about many things, have apologized for enough to know a genuine apology from a fake one. Logan Paul’s apology is both believable and unbelievable. As this is a confusing conclusion, I will further elaborate. Logan obviously regrets his actions, perhaps not because he did the wrong thing, but because he is receiving so much hate. In that way, he is genuine. Viewers, both the loyal Logang and the unbiased youtube users, can tell that he would take back his actions. Moreover, he is believable when he says that he wasn’t thinking, an obvious remark. However, Logan, when trying to justify his remarks through the comment that he was only trying to raise awareness for the suicide epidemic, is obviously lying. His actions, language, and attitude towards the corpse contradicts his claim to want to do good.

    Being an interesting topic and seeing as there are two interesting questions, I will now answer two questions. First, in response to Sarah’s question about whether or not the Aokigahara authorities should enforce a new rule of not allowing videotaping the forest, I say no. Why should travelers not be allowed to record their travels and the nature around them? I believe that instead of restricting videotaping, the authorities should restrict suicide in a public forest.

    In response to Andrea’s question, I first need to address that as a forest, Aokigahara wouldn’t be able to allow children to enter it. For example, the Madison Square Garden wouldn’t be able to restrict adults from entering it as it is only a place. Places are not able to restrict people from doing things.
    However, if Andrea is speaking about the authorities at Aokigahara, I respond to her with the same answer I have for Sarah. The authorities, rather than restricting the entrance of children into the forest, should restrict suicide.

    My question to the students of North House is “Do you believe that Logan Paul should be forgiven over time? Do you think he will be forgiven over time? How might this affect his career?

  4. I’ve been following the news of the Paul brothers for a very long time as I keep up with Youtube news on the daily as I subscribe to channels such as “Scarce” and “Drama Alert” to keep up with things on the Youtube platform. Their behavior was infamous as it all started back when they first created their Youtube channels after another popular social media platform called “Vine,” was terminated. When I discovered Logan Paul filming a dead body and completely being disrespectful to another nation’s culture, it didn’t come as a surprise to me. His behavior has been absolutely atrocious as well as his brother Jake Paul. Both vloggers have acted very immature on Youtube’s platform and have taken advantage of Youtube’s terms of guidelines. An example of this would be when Logan and Jake Paul created fake drama against each other to make each other more popular and godlike to their fanbase called the “Logang” and the “Jake Paulers.” Their fanbase, however, is extremely loyal as they are mostly comprised of young kids. This also contributes to the problem at hand, by showing inappropriate behavior in another country and even a dead body to the younger kids, he is effectively negatively influencing our future generation as a whole with provocative and disgusting attitude.

    In my opinion, Logan Paul has made many other chances to redeem himself and his behavior hasn’t been likable since the very beginning. I believe that he should be punished by having a caution strike on Youtube, which means that if he makes another mistake one more time, his channel will be deleted. This action is justified because of many other countless YouTubers that have had their channels terminated because of slight clickbait or copyright, while Logan Paul (because he is popular) have somehow bypassed these punishments on the platform even though he has m=done much worse clickbait and copyright infringement.

    Logan Paul’s apology video about the situation was also very selfish as he self-praised himself about how people make mistakes as he has been making videos for a long time. Many celebrities have spoken up about his way on how he has apologized including Aaron Paul, Sophie Turner, and much more. I would like to quote what they said but I believe the language used to convey their opinions isn’t suitable for a learning environment, but I can assure that they convey a strong dislike on Logan Paul’s apology and attitude in general. Like the majority of people on the internet, I do not believe in Logan Paul’s apology and believe that unless he is given an authoritative warning or termination on Youtube, he will continue to negatively influence our youth as a whole. His actions and behavior have more than caused dismay on foreign ground, as citizens of Japan have spoken about how they aren’t looking forward to the 2020 Olympics because of the people influenced by Logan Paul. Not only this but he has made fun of suicide as a whole and took it as a joke in his video that filmed the dead body and got deleted. In the video (I watched the video before it got deleted), after he saw the dead body he proceeded to talk about the dead person’s clothing and make jokes about the suicide forest. He has had a number of second chances from the start of his Youtube career and hasn’t been punished for it at all (he hasn’t even received a channel strike from Youtube either) and without any authoritative action, he will continue to keep on gaining more popularity and make another horrible mistake.

    In response to Kyle’s question:
    Logan Paul should be forgiven over time definitely, however, it will be a VERY long time as his reputation has been known throughout the world because of the recent news and articles online as well as on TV. I believe that over time he will start to learn from his mistakes but not effective as he has had a history of not learning from previous experiences. His career as a whole will be tremendously affected as it could go both ways. One way is in which it goes in favor of his side and he ends up becoming even more popular than before. While the other way is when he gets a punishment and is ridiculed by the community until he learns humility and common sense. Overall, however, with the way things are going on in which Youtube isn’t punishing Logan Paul, he will probably get away with this and get even more popular.

  5. In response to Lucia’s question I think that Logan Paul is one careless, unattractive, inconsiderate, disrespectful, and completely stupid human being. No apology can ever make up for Logan’s previous action. He disrespected the victim, the victims family, the audience, and the all the victims of suicide. For someone to be in such a dark place in their lives to want to kill themselves is a very personal and sensitive topic that Logan should have never even thought of exposing. I think he had no business going into that suicide forest in the first place. It is unbelievable how far he is willing to go just to get views. He is money hungry, insensitive and immature for a 22 year old. I think he should be forced to resign to youtube and just go live in a small town or something. He should be removed from the public eye. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE HIS FACE ANYMORE!!

    In response to Kyle’s question I think that everyone deserves forgiveness but in this case he does not. You’d have to be seriously mental to expose someones pain like that and not receiving forgiveness would be the best punishment. He could just live the rest of his miserable life feeling guilty.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/01/a-social-media-stars-error/549479/

    My Question: Why do you think Logan Paul posted the video? Do you think it was for attention, views, because he is just a messed up person? Why?

  6. Prompt: What was your first reaction to this situation? How do you think Logan should be punished, if he should be punished at all? Do you believe his apology? Why or why not?

    When I first was made aware of this situation, I was horrified. I have been kept up to date about the drama between Jake and Logan Paul through YouTube News and have been very disappointed by the immature and inappropriate actions that the brothers have taken on camera. I know that they have both based their channel on controversy and doing dangerous pranks that not only endanger themselves but other people as well. However, this incident has crossed the line, and I highly doubt an apology video will make viewers around the world, especially those in Japan, forget about the utter lack of disrespect that was committed in the country. For those of you who have not watched the video, Logan Paul went to visit the forest Aokigahara, a location known to be a place where thousands of people go to commit suicide, to film a vlog that would supposedly focus on the haunted aspect of the scenery, however, this video took a turn in a completely different direction when Logan and his friends encountered a dead body. Rather than turning off the camera, he made jokes about the whole situation and exploited the body in a manner that was detrimental to the loved ones of that victim. His actions emphasize the immaturity and insensitivity that Logan Paul has been unable to grow out of, and it is unacceptable that he is taking advantage of YouTube’s Terms and Conditions that would have otherwise let him post the video in the first place.

    In regards to his apology, it is apparent that Logan truly regrets his actions and would take them back if he could. However, the only assurance we have of that is due to all the hatred and threats he is receiving; therefore, it is uncertain if he is truly sorry due to the emotional damage he has caused to the victim and his loved ones. It is difficult to believe his words because he mentioned that he was trying to spread suicide awareness and prevention, but this is an absurd statement because throughout the video, Logan did not take the situation seriously and exploited the body of the victim that he instead should have kept private. The fact that he also said that he wasn’t thinking and didn’t realize how disrespectful the video was is also unrealistic because he had an entire day to edit the video in which he filmed inappropriate remarks, comments, and imagery. The video had no educational basis and thus is not justified, so Logan definitely deserves some form of punishment.

    To emphasize the seriousness of the actions taken that day in Aokigahara, I believe it is necessary to remove Logan’s YouTube channel, because it would be unfair to give him a warning. He has had numerous opportunities to redeem himself and repeatedly apologize for inappropriate behavior he and his brother have exhibited in the face of the millions of followers they have, so this is long overdue. There are many youtubers who have been flagged and demonetized for small things, and the fact that it took so long to remove Logan’s vlog, allowing it to be re uploaded and viewed millions of times demonstrates the carelessness and injustice that social media has allowed to occur.

    In response to Sarah’s question, authorities of the Aokigahara forest should definitely take measures to make sure that there is no videotaping in the forest to accurately recognize the tragedy of the thousands of suicides that take place in that area. Especially after the incident that occurred with Logan Paul, it is definitely possible for another immature person to disrespect the victims of that country again, so it is in Japan’s best interest to increase the security in that area.

    The question I have formulated is: There are many Logan Paul fans who have a bias in his favor and have overlooked his inappropriate actions. Do you think this is understandable, and if not, how can we help them view this situation in an unbiased perspective?

  7. My initial reaction to the whole situation was that it is what I expected from a Youtuber that come from the same grapevine of social media content creators, Viners. I expect them to do anything to create anything controversial, shocking, to try to be funny, or anything that attempts to cater to their audience. It’s morbid to know how disrespectful he was just in that one video, filmed. It was just simply offensive and rude the pranks he did such as, provoking a cart driver, messing around in that temple, and being an absolute nuisance in the famous Tokyo Fish Market to the merchants. Him making fun of the dead body and getting practically endorsed by Youtube by being on the trending page seems rather irresponsible and just morally wrong. I have not watched the full length video and I am not an active Logan Paul fan, but I can clearly tell this behavior is just inexcusable. I personally think this current punishment of having people criticize him heavily is a deserving punishment. If you did something wrong, you should be expected to be under some heat and should not expect people to forgive you just because you have apologized. I don’t really mind his content, but if it involves showing random people disrespect, I’m not a fan. I personally do not believe his apology that he put up on Twitter, but I just hope that he has a change of heart. I probably won’t ever watch another Logan Paul video. People make mistakes, but this is just may be an exception.
    In response to Sarah’s question, I personally believe it should be monitored like I think a documentary the one Vice did is a great video to educate people on what happens in the forest. You obviously cannot control people what they do, but there should be a guide of some kind to check what you do when you’re filming the forest. The authorities there should be there to ensure at least a little bit more respect when someone has passed. You should be fined if you film without permission or if you cause any disturbance.
    In response to Andrea’s question I think children should be educated on suicide and the suicide forest. As far as I know, Japan is the country with one of the highest suicide rates. Mental health has been making strides in the states making people aware of things such as anxiety and depression. Children should learn to find healthy ways to talk to an expert in the event of a potential suicide could happen with a friend, family member or even themselves.

    My question is how can people raise awareness about suicide not only in Japan, but worldwide?

    Works Cited
    “Logan Paul: YouTuber Apologizes over Japan Dead Man Video.” BBC News, BBC, 3 Jan. 2018, http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42547699.

  8. Forgive him. We all make mistakes, we all deserve a second chance. I really can’t say much more than that. I don’t know who he is, I’ve never watched any of his videos and I probably wouldn’t approve of them if I did, but forgiveness is always the right thing to do in any situation.

    When it really comes down to it, however, I know nothing of this situation or of the people involved, and have no motivation whatsoever to educate myself on the matter.

    To answer Melissa’s question:
    Yes, it is understandable. And while they seem to have reached similar conclusions as I have, their reasoning behind it may be flawed in the sense that they support him because they like him, and for no other reason.

    Question:
    Why does everyone care so much? He’s just some kid acting stupid who happens to have millions of subscribers. What bearing does this have on anything, and if it does, should it?

  9. My question to you is:
    Do you think Youtube will take further action on Logan Paul’s mistakes? Or do you think otherwise because of his popularity?

  10. I also came across this situation when I was on Twitter and I was so confused. I did not watch the video but I saw the one part of him reacting to the dead body in the forest. I was surprised because I did not think anyone would do something like that. Why would he post something like that and react in that manner. Also knowing that he has young subscribers and still posting that… why? His content is usually him doing dumb things to entertain his viewers. However, this was very wrong. This wasn’t dumb, it was messed up and disgusting. I think this is Logan’s biggest mistake out of all the dumb things he has done. I think all the hate and judgement he is getting is already is his “punishment.” Many people, including his subscribers, are hating on him and some are even disgusted by his actions. All of this is giving him a bad reputation. For a Youtuber, this is a big punishment already. Many might say that the hate isn’t too bad because Logan is getting a lot of views on these videos and attention anyway, but from those views and the attention it gives off negativity. From the negativity, not many people would want to watch his videos anymore.
    Logan’s apology gave me an iffy feeling because I can’t really tell if he is fully sorry or partially sorry. He said in the clip that his coping mechanism is to laugh but he should not have filmed that at all. He should have thought about his actions before doing it.

    Response to Karen’s question: I think Logan posted the video not thinking about what he was doing. I think he just thought it would be “cool” to post something no one has ever posted. He said it was not for views but every video he does is to entertain the viewers and to get views. I think it was partially him not thinking and at the same time him wanting content.

    My question: Why do you think security at the Aokigahara forest did not prohibit people from filming there?

  11. Prompt: What was your first reaction to this situation? How do you think Logan should be punished, if he should be punished at all? Do you believe his apology? Why or why not?
    My first reaction to Logan Paul posting this video was disgust, and I was shocked as to how someone could stoop so low. Jake Paul and Logan Paul have always been obnoxious, and in my opinion, awful people. He claimed that the video was to promote suicide prevention, but that seemed like a thinly veiled excuse to post the video as it was. If Logan Paul wanted to make a serious suicide prevention video there are so many ways he could have gone about it. He could have simply given a testimonial as to what happened, and not shown video clips where he is clearly mocking the man who has died. While I understand how laughter is a coping mechanism for some people, where is a difference in laughing because you are scared and laughing because you are making jokes. Logan Paul showed no respect to the man, and has probably hurt their family. He could have stopped filming at any point, yet he didn’t. No one is forcing him to put a video of a dead body on youtube. As far as Logan Paul’s apology, I do not believe it is sincere. He initially only posted an apology on twitter, only making a video after people maid comments that the apology was insufficient. Also, if you view other footage of him in Japan, he films himself purchasing a gameboy and promptly throwing it on the street-causing it to break. He then takes the gameboy back into the store and says “there’s something wrong with it: and the shop owner looks shocked and disturbed at his actions. In the video he is also shown being offensive and obnoxious all over, running around wish raw fish and putting it on people’s cars. This is a complete disrespect to the people he encountered while in Japan. I strongly believe Logan Paul should be punished, and make an in person apology to the victim’s family.

    To answer David’s question: “Do you think Youtube will take further action on Logan Paul’s mistakes? Or do you think otherwise because of his popularity?”
    While youtube definitely needs to step in, I do not think they will. This is because they see that Logan’s channel has not lost a significant amount of subscribers. his videos are still getting millions of views. Also, his fans have no problems with what happened and are continuing to defend him. Youtube gets website traffic from Logan Paul’s fans watching his videos as well as money.

    My question is:

  12. Prompt: What was your first reaction to this situation? How do you think Logan should be punished, if he should be punished at all? Do you believe his apology? Why or why not?
    My first reaction to Logan Paul posting this video was disgust, and I was shocked as to how someone could stoop so low. Jake Paul and Logan Paul have always been obnoxious, and in my opinion, awful people. He claimed that the video was to promote suicide prevention, but that seemed like a thinly veiled excuse to post the video as it was. If Logan Paul wanted to make a serious suicide prevention video there are so many ways he could have gone about it. He could have simply given a testimonial as to what happened, and not shown video clips where he is clearly mocking the man who has died. While I understand how laughter is a coping mechanism for some people, where is a difference in laughing because you are scared and laughing because you are making jokes. Logan Paul showed no respect to the man, and has probably hurt their family. He could have stopped filming at any point, yet he didn’t. No one is forcing him to put a video of a dead body on youtube. As far as Logan Paul’s apology, I do not believe it is sincere. He initially only posted an apology on twitter, only making a video after people maid comments that the apology was insufficient. Also, if you view other footage of him in Japan, he films himself purchasing a gameboy and promptly throwing it on the street-causing it to break. He then takes the gameboy back into the store and says “there’s something wrong with it: and the shop owner looks shocked and disturbed at his actions. In the video he is also shown being offensive and obnoxious all over, running around wish raw fish and putting it on people’s cars. This is a complete disrespect to the people he encountered while in Japan. I strongly believe Logan Paul should be punished, and make an in person apology to the victim’s family.

    To answer David’s question: “Do you think Youtube will take further action on Logan Paul’s mistakes? Or do you think otherwise because of his popularity?”
    While youtube definitely needs to step in, I do not think they will. This is because they see that Logan’s channel has not lost a significant amount of subscribers. his videos are still getting millions of views. Also, his fans have no problems with what happened and are continuing to defend him. Youtube gets website traffic from Logan Paul’s fans watching his videos as well as money.

    My question is: How has our society’s sense of dependency on media changed people’s judgement? why do you think people like Logan Paul have the urge to film everything that happens around them, even if it is wrong to film in certain situations?

  13. As Lucia said I was also going through Twitter and then started seeing other tweets about Logan Paul and I just continued going about. Then I started to pay more attention and read some comments like “he is sick minded”, “disrespectful” and so on and also other comments from celebrities and youtebers. My reaction was what kind of person does something like this and the main reason this got me so mad is because suicide is not a joke people actually take there lives and that’s not okay. The fact that he laughed on camera made it much worse and how he put it as the thumb nail of his video was much worse. Like did Paul ever think about the pain his video would cause to others to his fans if they ever lost a loved one to suicide was that ever going throw his mind or did he just do it for the views. I don’t believe his apology because he says he was not thinking, but how does somebody do something without thinking. He clearly was aware of what he was doing if he filmed, edit and to share it publicly to people on the internet. No apology will ever be able to cover what he did ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
    QUESTION: Do you think Paul ever thought about the harm, anger or pain of others when he posted this video?
    Karen C: I think that Logan Paul posted this video for attention. It’s obvious that when you do something dumb you’ll get recognized by it. Like for him it was everywhere Twitter, radio, news and many other sources of media I feel he did it for the attention and for his YouTube channel to grow. Because of course there are people out there who might think what he did was “cool” as some as his supporters do who would go find him on YouTube and subscribe to his channel. That’s just my opinion about him and I never liked his videos in general because there just stupid.

  14. For me, I was not surprised when I was scrolling through Twitter and I saw that Logan Paul had done something extremely controversial. Logan and his brother Jake are both known for pulling off some very risky stunts in order for them to get more views on their Youtube channels. This event that has taken place with Logan wasn’t really a surprise to me since I have seen what they have pulled off in the past to get more views. Jake clearly states in some of his videos before he does something very stupid, and I have seen Logan say that a couple of times as well. In my opinion, I do believe that Logan should be punished for his actions. What he did was pretty extreme and inappropriate. A fair punishment for Logan would most likely be a ban, for a period of time. I think that this would be appropriate because after that time is over, He will have hopefully learned from his mistakes to think before he does something and posts it on the internet. I have always seen Logan and his brother as very controversial figures on Youtube because of what they do to get more views for their channels. When I watched the video, I didn’t feel as bothered as others who were going off on Twitter. But then, he started to make jokes and laugh about the guy who had just committed suicide. That really began to bother me because suicide is not a joke. It is a very serious matter. Considering the fact that Logan’s followers are mostly kids, He should have thought about the content that he was going to be showing to them before he posted it. That was a very inappropriate video to show to little kids. I do not believe in his apology because suicide is not something to joke about no matter if you are kidding or not. The apology that Logan posted was very bad in my opinion. I don’t know how to explain it but its just bad. He just talks about him messing up, but clearly he doesn’t state that he is going to something to make up for his actions

    Answer to David’s Question:
    Youtube is obviously not going to do anything about it because there have been other youtube stars who also have caused extreme controversy and nothing was done to them. Logan will probably just stop posting and that’s the end of this situation.

    Do you think that there should be stricter security measures surrounding the suicide forest of Japan?

  15. Prompt: What was your first reaction to this situation? How do you think Logan should be punished, if he should be punished at all? Do you believe his apology? Why or why not?

    Since my little brother watches Logan Paul, he showed me a part of the video Logan Paul had made when it was first posted on youtube. I was not expecting him to show an actual person’s body and was very shocked when I saw the video, knowing that many little kids watch his vlogs. I thought it was very disrespectful to mock the person to both the person and his family. I think this situation should not have been laughed at, or joked about, especially in front of his kid audience. Logan Paul is in turn receiving a lot of hate from many media stars and his fans ever since he posted this vlog. I’m guessing he probably lost a lot of business deals career wise, was on many news channels, and is now looked down upon, which I think is a big enough punishment for the video he posted. I think that Logan Paul’s apology is not completely sincere because I think he is only apologizing to get his fans back, and to fix his reputation. I don’t think that he realizes his mistake, because he had an entire day to film and edit his vlog and he did not see anything wrong with it, and did not think it would cause all this chaos.

    My Question: Do you think that Logan Paul will ever be able to regain his reputation after posting this video or do you think this video will have an impact on his career forever and people will not forget about his actions?

  16. During a recent, and rare occasion in which I open and scroll through Twitter, I was quite surprised and bothered by what’s trending. I saw a video in a tweet of one of Logan Paul’s vlogs, displaying his trip to Japan for everyone on the internet to see. It was basically a compilation of the Youtuber disturbing people going about their daily lives in Japan by playing unnecessary pranks wherever he roamed and making insensitive comments about the culture. I was not aware of his video about mocking a corpse in the Suicide Forest of Japan until I read this week’s blog post topic. I had very disappointing and resentful reactions regarding this situation. Suicide awareness has been spreading a lot throughout all forms of media lately through music like the song with the national suicide prevention lifeline, “1-800-273-8255” by Logic and the show “13 Reasons Why”. With the value of life constantly being promoted these days, I can’t help, but wonder why the Youtuber didn’t think about the consequences of joking about the subject of suicide.

    I think Logan Paul should be punished by having his Youtube channel removed. It was not just one video in which he disrespected and mocked aspects of Japanese culture.

    I do believe that he may be sincere with his apology with all the backlash he and his content have been receiving ever since the vlogs trended on social media. All the criticism and hate he is getting should help him to realize the effects of being inconsiderate with one’s words and actions.

    To answer Irene’s question, I think this video will have an impact on his career forever and that many people will definitely not forgive and forget his actions.

    Are you willing to forgive Logan Paul for his words and actions in these recent vlogs? Why or why not?

  17. My first reaction to the Logan Paul situation was disbelief. However, it was not disbelief towards the actions of Logan Paul, but disbelief towards the ridiculous amount of attention and importance that people gave to it. Before you impose any judgements upon me from reading this, know that I do not think that his actions were justified, appropriate, or even smart to any degree. I do believe that it was not acceptable to post such a video, but I think it is idiotic how much people are getting frustrated over it. People post ridiculous and inappropriate videos on the internet every day, so it is not a new thing. People who get heated over occurrences on the internet have no real grip on reality and are focused on the most irrelevant things in life. I am not against people having an opinion on this subject, but it doesn’t have to be personal for them. Whether or not Logan Paul gets punished or not, it doesn’t change what he did. The important thing is that he apologized for his actions and no real damage was done. It doesn’t matter if anyone forgives Logan, and personally I couldn’t care any less about what he did so I don’t need to forgive him in the first place. Who is to say that his apology was not genuine? In the end it doesn’t matter, because there will always be people who won’t believe him and there will be those that do. Nothing can change that. The purpose of this whole situation was just to give popular YouTubers more revenue from their response videos and to stir some action in the dull YouTube community. That’s why YouTube made Logan’s unpopular apology video number one on the trending list.

    I have a message to all the people who get personally affected or offended by occurrences on the internet: I have a new software for you. It’s called sunlight. If you buy the expansion pack it comes with a soccer ball. Please get off your computer and focus on the real things in life. You are only giving the internet power by getting personally affected. Please learn that the internet or even anything else in this world has only as much power as you give it. So please do not choose to give these things power and learn to feel happy and unaffected by any situation. If you are getting frustrated by reading this, then you are only clinging onto your desire to be powerless, because it makes you feel safe.

    My question regards the message I wrote above: What do you think of this message and how does it make you feel?

    In response to Irene’s question: Logan Paul will probably not be thought of in the same way from now on by some, but he will recover from this incident and will keep gaining subscribers and will keep posting videos.

  18. My first reaction to the situation was unbelievable and I was shocked on the fact that he even posted the video. Even blurring the person who commited suicide wasn’t acceptable to post and it disrespects them. I think he should get his channel taken down because his content is meant for the younger audience in the ages around 12, but he posts inappropriate things and it is disrespectful to many people in his video. One video he did was in Japan, and in Japan the people don’t waste their food because it is sacred to them because of the people who get their food work hard for it, he had a fish and a tentacle and he was messing around with it then he left it on the back of a taxi which was disrespectful. He was banned from Japan which is a good punishment for disrespecting the country and his apology video wasn’t acceptable since he posted the video in the first place knowing there would be backlash.

    Do you think it is right for certain youtube videos to not get taken down while others suffer from getting their videos taken down losing revenue?

  19. I was scrolling through my Twitter feed when I discovered what Logan Paul had done. My initial reaction to the news was not of disgust nor horror, but of disbelief. How can this man and his crew approve the publication of the video? Many people had to review this video and not one did not question his creditability of raising awareness. The dead body was a man. A man with a family, a wife and a child. Did the producers not worry that the family would watch the video?
    The whole issue has resulted in views and national publication of Logan Paul. Despite removing the video, he published an apology video that is making money from ad revenue. If a true man was really sorry, he would remove any way to remove money from this tragedy. I do believe he is sorry for this, but he should have done more to truly display his regret and sorrow.
    As I write this blogpost, YouTube has punished Logan Paul. They have removed his channel from Google Preferred and put his YouTube Red series on hold. I believe that this form pf punishment is an effective one. Not only will this ensure Logan Paul or any YouTuber does anything like this again, the negative reception and press will too. Logan has lost much respect and will dedicate his life to regaining it all back.

    To answer Irene’s question, I strongly believe that he will continue to get views and some people will forget about it. Children are most likely to do this. Some kids do not understand the seriousness of his actions and are defending Logan on Twitter. They believe that he did nothing wrong or that he is very sorry and should be forgiven easily.

    My question is “Do you believe in the statement that all publicity is good?” Answer from a creator’s perspective, not a viewer’s.

  20. As someone who does not follow or support Logan Paul when I heard about this video I immediately thought that Youtube would have banned his account and removed the video. I though that if I had been videos in the Suicide Forest of Japan and stumbled across a man who had taken his own life I would immediately turn the cameras off and phone the police so that man could be returned to his family. When I heard how Logan Paul reacted I was astonished because not only did he not turn the cameras off but he posted that video on Youtube. There was no reason for that video to be published online and because Logan Paul took the time to upload that video should be reason enough for him to loose his privileges on Youtube. I do feel like he should be punished for his actions because he had had lots of time to process what he had filmed between the time it was filmed and the time it was uploaded.

    To answer Janelle I believe that What Logan Paul did was completely disrespectful and that many people will eventually overlook what he said given time. But for me personally I never was a supporter and this video and what he had said will never make me a supporter of him.

    My question is: if you were put in the same situation how would you react? Would you continue filming? Would you call for help? Would you ever post it on a public place?

  21. What was your first reaction to this situation? I do not know what kind of reputation this guy has in the YouTube world but my first reaction to this situation was appalling. The people who plugged into this situation, expressed their opinions in an unforgiving manner, helped him realize his actions were distressing and reckless. Thus, allowing him to create the video, “So Sorry.” Is that not enough? Do you believe his apology? Why or why not? His video seemed sincere and I immediately forgave him. Even if he was not sincere to the mass of people, how would we ever know for sure? If people continue to express hatred towards Logan Paul, could we not eventually lead him into a suicidal state too? Celebrities are people too, they have feelings like you and me. Some people react to stressful and emotional situations by making jokes or laughing. If you have ever been to a funeral, there is always one person there making unnecessary jokes. That is how they cope with the situation. That person cannot help themselves. Continuing on, how do you think Logan should be punished, if he should be punished at all? YouTube should put a hold on Logan Paul’s work because of his impetuous acts. Furthermore, he needs to provide several apology videos that are live, unedited, and provided on several social media platforms besides YouTube. In all reality, Logan Paul has provided a line to people realizing the suicidal crisis in Japan and across the world. To answer Adriana’s question, “Do you think Paul ever thought about the harm, anger or pain of others when he posted this video?” He probably did not think about the harm his video would cause to other people. He probably should start having his videos viewed by someone from here on out. Logan Paul needs to understand that everything in this world is not a joke and not every subject in the world can cope with his idea of ‘entertainment.’ Some subjects are more sensitive than others and I believe he needs a mini lesson on situations like these in the future.

    Question: Do you think people will care about this situation in a month? Explain.

    “Logan Paul: YouTuber Apologizes over Japan Dead Man Video.” BBC News, BBC, 3 Jan. 2018, http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42547699.

    Here is his 1:44 apology video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwZT7T-TXT0

  22. My intelitail reaction towards this situation was pure disappointment to believe that a person who knew their influence among the internet decided to post a video of a dead body from which his actions were not appropita and all right disrespectful. Currently, youtube has punished Logan Paulo for his action. “Paul’s channels were removed from YouTube’s Google Preferred programme, where brand sell ads on the platform’s top 5% of content creator. YouTube also said it had put on hold original projects with the US vlogger.” written by in a BBC article titled YouTube punishes Logan Paul over Japan suicide video. These punishment are weak to my eyes since Logan still has the power to post videos, and is still able to create projects without the assistant of Google. What YouTube should have done, is suspended his entire channel to around 6-12 months to fully punish his actions, however, not permanently because this was indeed a mistake that he has done, but a repeated action will cause a permanent ban from his channel. Other forms of media platforms should also suspend his accounts to 6 months also to limit his post, thus experiencing the consequences of his actions. I partially believe his apology because there were parts of the video from which I do not believe. For example, he has said, “ Reaction you saw on tape were raw, they were unfiltered none of us knew how to react or how to feel.” in his youtube apology from 0:16-0:22. This fully contradicts his reaction of witnessing the dead body from which a friend of his said, “doesn’t feel good”. Paul then replied to him: “What, you never stand next to a dead guy?” And laughs. This does not qualify as “not knowing how to react” because making jokes about a witnessing a dead body with 5 mins is all down disrespectful, and should already know that making jokes is a wrong thing to do in that situation.

    Replying to davidtnorth Question:
    As I mentioned before, Youtube’s actions has little effect upon Logan Paul, and should input more sevier actions such as suspending his youtube account for 6-12 months to fully realise his consequences. He has done a mistake so banning his account permanently does not fit for now, but suspending his account is appropriate as a punishment for him to be careful at posting his videos.

    Question: What classifies an appropriate video? How far should censorship in YouTube?

  23. As mentioned by my fellow classmates the actions taken by Logan Paul are defenitely unacceptable and I completely agree with that. My little brother used to watch Logan Paul videos on youtube and sometimes I would even catch him doing and saying things that he would do. It was very dissapointing to find out that Logan Paul uploaded a video of a recent suicide on youtube when there’s many little kids watching his videos and even look up to him. To me not only was the part of the suicide dissapointing but through out his trip he was being very dissresoectful to the culture and vandalizing their country which I believe to not be entertaining at all. After finding out who Logan Paul truly is and knowing my brother looked up to him, I immedietely told my parents and asked them to not allow him to watch any of his videos ever again. My brother understands how bad his actions were and he seemed sad because he had recently bought his merchandise and he’s now dissapointed and won’t even wear the merchandise anymore.

    In response to Kylie, I know that if I were in that situation my first reaction would be shocked and scared because it’s not common to see a person who has commited suicide. I’d definietely stop recording and would not post anything that was recorded. My first thought would definetely be to call for help and have proffesionals handle the situation. Lastly I wouldn’t post anything that was recorded that day in respect to the dead body. If I were to be in his place and wanted to raise awarness I’d do it in a respectful and different way.

    Question: How do you think this video has impacted society?

  24. Prompt: What was your first reaction to this situation? How do you think Logan should be punished, if he should be punished at all? Do you believe his apology? Why or why not?

    My first reaction to this was just shock because I couldn’t believe someone could be so disrespectful and idiotic to a person who decided to take their life. I knew that Logan Paul had done bad things in the past but there was nothing as bad as this, this is was just utterly wrong. Paul and his friends laughed, made fun of the man, and kept filming throughout all of this. I think Logan should be punished by having a strike in his account and if he ever does something else that crosses the line his account should be deleted, as for now I think his account should be suspended until further notice. I don’t fully accept his apology because although he did apologize I think on some level he knew it was wrong but decided to do it anyway, just because he apologized doesn’t mean he was sorry. Logan Paul has been known to do dangerous and ridiculous stunts but nothing has never been as terrible as this. The people who have taken their lives in the Aokigahara forest should be respected.

    To answer Sarah’s question I think to stop people from videotaping there should be a guide with people at all times to make sure that no one records and does something disrespectful.

    My question is do you think Logan Paul can ever do something to redeem himself? If he does do you think you can ever forgive him?

  25. What was your first reaction to this situation? How do you think Logan should be punished, if he should be punished at all? Do you believe his apology? Why or why not?

    My first reaction to the situation was utter disgust, because of the fact that he showed a corpse on YouTube and believed it would be appropriate to post it for young children and teens to view. It especially bothered me because I know my little brothers and cousins are subscribed to Logan Paul and watch his videos , and the message that Logan Paul is sending to out younger generations sickens me. He is teaching the younger genartion the wrongs things he is making suicide seem like a small thing when it is not. It is a very serious topic that people deal with today and to be making jokes about suicide is not okay. Logan Paul’s video should be demonetized and so should his channel. I personally do not believe his apology , he knew what he was posting and he still posted it. I believe the only reason why he apologized was because he saw how the media was reacting to it.

    Question: Are you guys fans of the Paul brothers ? If so why? And have they ever uploaded another video you did not agree with?

  26. Just going straight from the article to here, I am not upset or disappointed with his actions. By today’s standards, most Americans are disrespectful and insensitive to other cultures. With that being said what he was doing is not a bad thing. The article says the face of the corpse was blurred and Logan Paul was not talking bad about the body but at his camera man’s ability to keep his composer in the sight of a dead body.
    Logan Paul right now has a good enough punishment because the video he posted was not being hateful or mean, but is taken to literally. All of his followers know that the videos he posts are made to entertain, so taking his work too seriously is not his but the audience. So, Logan Paul should not get punished any longer because people are sensitive.
    With all of that being said I do not believe in his apology because I don’t see the need for him to make an apology. He was being the way that his audience always sees him, so his apology is not needed because his viewers enjoy the type of content that he creates.
    Have you guys ever been defended for a misunderstanding? What was it about?

  27. When I first found out I didn’t pay too much attention because I thought it was being blown out of proportion. Watching the video later on third party website, because it was removed on YouTube, I changed my mind. The video was disturbing but what made it even more disturbing was the facts that Logan Paul had made jokes. He completely disrespected the family of the dead person. I don’t believe he means his apology as he monetized the apology video.

    Question: if you were Logan Paul how would you handle the situation.

  28. After seeing this video i was questioning how Logan Paul could make jokes and such an unprofessional video about someone who committed suicide. He shouldn’t have posted this video. I am someone who isn’t sensitive at all and i don’t care what happens on the internet but i still felt it was wrong that he put a video of a suicide victim on his channel. Apparently that wasn’t the only offensive thing he did in japan so he is definitely deserving of punishment. And his apology was in no way sincere. I don’t understand how people out there look up to him as a role model. The way to punish someone that popular is to limit their content and hurt their popularity. As far as i know Logan paul is only getting more views because of the whole dramatic incident.
    In response to Aniessa’s question- I am not a fan of the paul brothers but i have seen all the controversial things the paul brothers do in H3H3 videos on youtube.
    My question- how did the paul brothers get so popular in such a small span of time? Could they lose all their popularity just as quick?

  29. About a year ago, I began watching Logan Paul after watching him appear on Amanda Cerny’s vlogs. Over the span of a month, I began to notice that he started to gain an ego that I was uncomfortable with, which led me to stop watching his videos. He was becoming more immature similar to his younger brother, Jake Paul, and it disgusted me. At points, I would ponder if he ever had a brain. I found out about the video by jacksepticeye, who announced his disgusting behavior via Twitter. I strongly felt that Logan Paul was very disrespectful and immature to the situation. His friends who accompanied were the same as Logan Paul. They made jokes and laughed at the suicide victim. They also continued filming after the discovery and walked up to the victim to zoom up on his body.

    After the incident, I strongly believe Logan Paul should be punished by YouTube more than what YouTube has done. YouTube has recently announced that they are removing Logan Paul from top-tier Google ad platform, Google Preferred, and has placed Logan Paul’s YouTube projects on hold. YouTube released a statement condemning his actions and gave his channel a strike on his channel, meaning if he receives two more strikes, YouTube will terminate his channel.

    Logan Paul’s apology video spiraled the internet as number one trending on YouTube, yet, I did not feel any remorse for him and I declined his apology. I strongly believe that the only reason why he posted the apology video was to clean up his reputation because if he, at all, felt bad about the situation at hand, then he would not have filmed, edited, and posted the vlog with the suicide victim and would have contacted the local police. The main reason why he filmed the vlog was to raise suicide awareness, but instead worsened the situation. Another way of addressing the topic was to film himself talking to the camera.

    Response to Alan M.: I do believe there should be stricter security measures surrounding the suicide forest of Japan because there are some people, like Logan Paul and his friends, who would not followed the designated path and would wander off into the forest. More security can help prevent citizens from committing suicide in the forest, as well.

    Do you believe there was another way to raise suicide awareness, unlike Logan Paul’s vlog? If so, explain.

  30. When I first saw that Logan Paul was trending because of the video he uploaded I wasn’t surprised. In the past Logan Paul has been known for negative actions and later apologizing for his actions. I don’t think his apology was sincere, I think he just put out an apology for the public. He saw the negative feedback and anger from people, and put out an apology to try and control the situation. Throughout the video he doesn’t turn off the cameras but instead keeps recording. Instead of showing respect or turning that horrible situation and trying to be serious about suicide he instead makes a joke. Logan Paul should be punished by having his YouTube channel taken down and canceling any other projects companies have with him.

    In response to Santi’s question, if I were to have stumbled upon a body like Logan Paul did I would immediately stopped recording and alerted the authorities.

    Question: Do you think Logan Paul will continue making YouTube videos?

  31. What was your first reaction to this situation? How do you think Logan should be punished, if he should be punished at all? Do you believe his apology? Why or why not?

    My initial reaction to hearing about this incident was completely devoid of surprise. Social media of all forms rewards those with controversial and shocking content with massive amounts of likes views, or whatever form of digital validation a platform uses. The Paul brothers have routinely kept themselves in the Youtube news cycle by constantly pushing the boundaries of what people with an audience consisting of 20+ million children should be viewing. The complete lack of respect for the victim of the tragic suicide, the country of Japan, and all those personally affected by suicide was rewarded with millions of views and a flood of new subscribers. In a digital world that thrives on controversy, obscenity, and publicity the best way to punish Logan Paul would be to ban him from the Youtube platform. While drastic being that he makes a living from the platform, he has repeatedly shown to have little to no remorse for being a massive embarrassment to the entire Youtube community. Everyone is human, everyone makes mistakes, and everyone deserves to be forgiven; but, there comes a point when too many severe mistakes deserves a harsh punishment.

    As far as his apology goes, I refuse to watch it. I personally do not care enough about him as a person to take the time out of my day to give him a view. Being that the youtube algorithm promotes videos with lots of views, the most I can do in protest of disgusting videos like this is to simply ignore them; thus helping to keep them off of trending lists and invisible to a wider audience. It is often said that any publicity is good publicity, so why help promote something I disagree with?

    To answer Adrian’s question, from the perspective of a creator, all publicity is good publicity. Even if actions bring condemnation, people are still talking about you. When creating in any medium, the best thing that could possibly happen is for the masses to constantly talk about you. Wether people love or hate you, at least they are spreading your name, brand, image, etc. .

    Is suicide a selfish final action, or is it selfish of those who would be affected by a suicide (friends, family, ect.) to want to perpetuate the life of someone who doesn’t want to be alive?

  32. I have heard of the situation on many occasions, most dominantly on Twitter. At first, I did not pay full attention to the anger that was being shot towards Logan Paul, assuming it was simply another thing he did wrong. It was not until I saw tweets about his apology where I completely understood what he had did. I was appalled by his actions, and I thought it was entirely out of conduct. There was no room for excuse, considering the time and effort it takes to edit and upload a video. According to the article and additional sources, Logan Paul continuously stated that he was “not thinking”. This is nowhere near acceptable, as it obviously requires some level of thinking to publish his content; I do not believe his apology. In addition to exploiting the suicide victim, Paul disrespected the family members and other people in the “Suicide Forest”. There is a great deal of shame that is brought with Logan Paul’s name and his video.

    In more recent times, YouTube has sensibly cut ties with Logan Paul. He was removed from the Foursome channel, and has been taken off of Google Preferred. Consequently, he is no longer able to make profit from his videos. I think this punishment is appropriate.

    Answer to Irene:
    I think Logan Paul’s reputation will forever be tainted; there will hardly be room for redemption. However, due to the fact that a majority of his audience is made up of youth, he will continue to have fans. Since younger children may not fully be aware of the seriousness of Paul’s actions, they may eventually forget about it and continue to support him.

    My Question:
    Why do you think Logan Paul has been able to capture such a large audience in the past year?

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